Wise Ones Correspond About Monsanto and GMO’s

Where do you stand in the GMO debates? Oregon (my home state) and Colorado, will vote this fall on whether or not genetically modified foods should be labeled.   Oregon_GMO_Right_to_Know_logo The vote is not about labeling, but about how easy it should be for people to opt out of the grand GMO experiment. In 2012 and 2013, Pepsi, Monsanto, DuPont, General Mills, Kellogg, Dow, BASF, Cargill, ConAgra, PepsiCo, Coca Cola, Hormel, Syngenta, Bayer, and other corporations donated $68 million to defeat similar labeling measures in California and Washington. It’s no wonder. Eighty percent of the foods produced by these companies contain genetically engineered ingredients.

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Top cereals that contain Monsanto’s GMO corn.

Also, these companies no doubt would like to keep the focus on whether or not to label, rather than on whether or not messing with the gene pool and saturating the soil and water with glyphosate is a good idea. The issues aren’t simple. Genetic engineering is credited with saving the papaya industry, and almost all of the sugar beets in the US are genetically engineered — how that happened is a whole other story. Scribbler relies heavily on friends and family to help untangle sticky wickets like this. Professor M and Judge A, who are in their mid 80’s (and request anonymity), agreed to share part of their e-mail discussion on the subject. alabama-old-men471x317

Aug. 22

M —

I feel hornswoggled, bamboozled, deceived. Monsanto, in its latest reincarnation, proposes to become a universal ag. extension agent, advising its customers how to cash in on carbon credits.

They will do this by farming with new GM products while using carefully selected, superficial, organic methods; methods to reduce but not significantly eliminate environmental, biological and soil degradation. Run-off, water pollution and erosion caused by glyphosate, pesticides and manufactured fertilizers will be less troublesome. Promise! A little improvement will be better than none, I guess, but hardly worth further experimentation on us by bio-fuel manufacturers, junk food producers and cattle feeders.

As before, Monsanto has produced zero science that proves its products (as distinguished from sound agronomy), will benefit yields or crop quality beyond a few years. Soil improvements it promises are likely to be near the surface rather than deeper down where needed. Great PR though.

Most countries outside the US are not buying this latest, cynical ploy and there has been vigorous opposition here also. But Monsanto is now too big in the US to fail? Right?

Have a pastry made with GM flour. Protect yourself against agent orange.

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August 23 2014. 8:35 PM

A — We agree the world is going to the dogs. They made the catastrophic error of not letting you and me run it when we were younger.

Monsanto has indeed significantly replaced the ag. schools in dealing with the farmers. Not quite sure why. They cost much more, but maybe they also more often deliver what the farmer wants?

Data on CO2 impact of deforestation in today’s Economist. Not as bad as I thought. Comparable to international flying, such as we do next week. Much less than auto use.

M

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August 23, 2014,. 10:04 PM

M —

I expect you will enjoy your flight even more now that Monsanto will take care of your plane’s CO2. What a brilliant marketing tool: use faux extension agents to sell product! Much better than writing mortgages for people with no money.

A

Monsanto at Oregon State University? Using organic methods? Hiring themselves out as — expensive — extension agents? Clearly more investigation is called for. Where have your inquiries on GMOs led you?

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  • I think the area needs more research, but in the meantime, I’d like to see us tackle the number of preservatives in our food. Every day more and more products come out with a host of artificial ingredients and preservatives. It’s amazing what we put into our bodies, and it’s amazing what the food industry gets away with in making them.

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    • I agree. It’s good to see more awareness about processed foods, but it’s way too easy — and cheap — to load up on ingredients our bodies can’t use. And yes, more research in GMOs. There is a lot out there, but very little that is independent, and most focuses on differences between GMO and non GMO crops. Little on the long term effects on bodies and environment.

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  • The devil is in the detail , I am afraid. But when increasing corporate profit is the driving force then one should be suspicious. Very suspicious.

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  • And as one blog I read last week called them, “Monsatan.” Yeah, it’s really bad. Not to sound negative, but how do you stop one of the top four companies that run this country, if not the world? They have lined the pockets of government officials since their inception. Why not? They certainly can afford to. With no conscience whatsoever. Agent Orange? There is a town in the south that has taken Monsanto to court because those that worked at the plant that produced agent Orange are dying. And the court ruled that only those that worked at the plant can collect from the payoff. The rest of the town that was exposed? Not a penny. So don’t get me started on GMO. lol. What a nightmare. Thanks for writing about it Julia! 🙂

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  • I have several books on my bookshelf which I couldn’t finish reading because of all the crap in our food. It’s filler, for color, for shelf-live, for taste. It makes me sick. I buy as little processed food as I can and cook from scratch, but I still buy canned food. Sigh.
    Not only do we need to wonder what WE are eating, what are they feeding our food sources. This won’t be the first time I’ve purchased chicken breasts in 10-pound bags. The last time, same store, when I brought them home, I couldn’t believe the size of the breasts, gaining on a small turkey breast: huge. As well they had lines of marbled fat, or do you call it muscle? The texture was different too, not tough but different.
    What’s left to eat? Outstanding post. This post should begin a tsunami of comments.
    ❤ ❤

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  • My sister works for a HUGE organic food company and she has the privilege of traveling all over the country to push for the transparency of GMO’s. She could sit around a campfire and tell some frightening stories about food that would keep you up all night.
    She recently told me about an event she was at on this very subject. There were big food companies present, along with all sorts of scientists. But, the guy who stole the show was a 35 year old Amish farmer. He brought photos that proved the dangers of these GMO’s. He stated that all farms have field mice on their properties, especially under their barns. He noticed that these mice were not eating the corn on the ground like they did before the seeds he purchased were modified. He made 2 piles, one with the GMO corn and one with out. Needless to say animals are much smarter than us and stay far away from the modified corn. He also brought up the subject of infertility within their community, something that historically did not exist amongst the Amish. He was 35 with 7 children. His wife is a midwife and was seeing the struggles to become pregnant up close. This farmer spent 2 years bringing his farm back to it’s original state and ridding it of all GMO seeds. I could go on, but I’ll stop here I think you get the point.
    The reason they exist is MONEY MONEY and MORE MONEY.

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    • And they say mice aren’t intelligent. Kudos to your sister. The frantic spending by large agricultural and processed food companies to fight labeling says one thing to me: they are in trouble and they know it. Turning the ship of public opinion around though is like turning the Titanic.Takes awhile and a lot of effort. It can be done, given enough time. Meanwhile, good idea not to volunteer to be a GMO lab mouse. Just ask the Amish.

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